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	<title>Comments on: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Dry Loop DSL</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.punny.org/money/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-dry-loop-dsl/#comment-223492</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I currently have Both Verizon landline and DSL, I have a feeling that by going for "Dry Loop"  they are going to rape me on the DSL, so I am thinking of dropping EVERYTHING from my landline but keeping it active. I'm from New Jersey any idea what stripped to the bone basic phone would cost me a month? just for the unavoidable fees? I am thinking of going with ooma anyone have that VIOP service, how is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I currently have Both Verizon landline and DSL, I have a feeling that by going for &#8220;Dry Loop&#8221;  they are going to rape me on the DSL, so I am thinking of dropping EVERYTHING from my landline but keeping it active. I&#8217;m from New Jersey any idea what stripped to the bone basic phone would cost me a month? just for the unavoidable fees? I am thinking of going with ooma anyone have that VIOP service, how is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Gail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a dry loop dsl with Verizon and am now having a problem using my phone jacks with Vonage.....only one phone rings in the whole house out of 5 jacks.
Any solution to this outside of buying all new phones??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a dry loop dsl with Verizon and am now having a problem using my phone jacks with Vonage&#8230;..only one phone rings in the whole house out of 5 jacks.<br />
Any solution to this outside of buying all new phones??</p>
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		<title>By: EACat</title>
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		<dc:creator>EACat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So basically with a dry loop,do you just connect the computer to the phone or is anything else involved?
Thanks.

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So basically with a dry loop,do you just connect the computer to the phone or is anything else involved?<br />
Thanks.</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 02:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell Verizon you want naked dsl, otherwise known as dry loop.  Be fervent and don't get talked out of it, they must listen to you, the consumer.  Usually, they will give more credence if you have a land line currently.  I pay $31.99 a month for dry loop.  I was paying about $10/month more for the lowest dsl package after my promotional pricing ($15/month) ended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell Verizon you want naked dsl, otherwise known as dry loop.  Be fervent and don&#8217;t get talked out of it, they must listen to you, the consumer.  Usually, they will give more credence if you have a land line currently.  I pay $31.99 a month for dry loop.  I was paying about $10/month more for the lowest dsl package after my promotional pricing ($15/month) ended.</p>
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		<title>By: JOchoa</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOchoa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi maggiechristie@yahoo.com,

Let me see if i can help you out.  Chances are good that you will have to go without dsl until your dry loop is set up. Usually, it takes about a week though i have heard of it taking much longer so plan ahead.  As far as VOIP providers go, i currently have vonage and after a bit of hassle with getting it setup correctly(3 separate vonage tech visits and 1 att tech) it works just fine.  Listen, expect a certain amount of inconvenience with this process as it is new and will probably never be embraced totally by big phone companies.  See, they make their money off of phone service, its their bread and butter.  So they wont go quietly or make it easy breezy for you.  

note* when dry loop is to be setup, a seperate phone line should be ran.  Make sure you know what you're suppose to be getting and ask as many questions as possible. Don't hesitate.  Good Luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi <a href="mailto:maggiechristie@yahoo.com">maggiechristie@yahoo.com</a>,</p>
<p>Let me see if i can help you out.  Chances are good that you will have to go without dsl until your dry loop is set up. Usually, it takes about a week though i have heard of it taking much longer so plan ahead.  As far as VOIP providers go, i currently have vonage and after a bit of hassle with getting it setup correctly(3 separate vonage tech visits and 1 att tech) it works just fine.  Listen, expect a certain amount of inconvenience with this process as it is new and will probably never be embraced totally by big phone companies.  See, they make their money off of phone service, its their bread and butter.  So they wont go quietly or make it easy breezy for you.  </p>
<p>note* when dry loop is to be setup, a seperate phone line should be ran.  Make sure you know what you&#8217;re suppose to be getting and ask as many questions as possible. Don&#8217;t hesitate.  Good Luck</p>
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		<title>By: maggiechristie@yahoo.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>maggiechristie@yahoo.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you suggest a provider to go with?  I currently pay $88.00 a month for land line unlimited long distance and am SICK of it.  I need to get a dry loop line but Verizon isnt very helpful and they want me to jump through hoops just to get the dry loop service.  HELP!!
Will I have to go without DSL to get the dry loop?
What about the best VOIP provider?

Thanks,

Maggie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you suggest a provider to go with?  I currently pay $88.00 a month for land line unlimited long distance and am SICK of it.  I need to get a dry loop line but Verizon isnt very helpful and they want me to jump through hoops just to get the dry loop service.  HELP!!<br />
Will I have to go without DSL to get the dry loop?<br />
What about the best VOIP provider?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Maggie</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dry Loop in a perfect world is a great deal.  In a not so perfect world it's easy to loose because it looks like a dead wire to the phone guy.  So once you turn off your  dialtone DSL and go with the Dry Loop DSL it looks like a spare or dead wire to the next tech.  

Right now we have more Dial Tone DSL loops in our network so we can get the right line most of the time. Just think when the whole network goes to all looking like a dead - spare wire.  That Dialtone that used to protect your phone line from getting noisy and identified your line is no longer there...

Of course we haven't thought it out that far yet.  Untill we do we will be serving it up the way you want it and save you a few bucks from time to time....the aggravation of being with out for a while well it's just like a noisy cell phone connection we just get used to it and expect to have to call them back a few extra times.   GRIN!  I have 4 cell phones, 2 wireless G3 laptops and a land line DSL with dialtone.  They told me it would save me money.. HA!  Dry Loop DSL not for this at&#38;t teck.  It's too easy to say " Well there was nothing on it and I thought it was a spare line it tested spare"  

DSL is a great service Dry or with Dialtone.  I install them both daily.  

Mark Jones</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dry Loop in a perfect world is a great deal.  In a not so perfect world it&#8217;s easy to loose because it looks like a dead wire to the phone guy.  So once you turn off your  dialtone DSL and go with the Dry Loop DSL it looks like a spare or dead wire to the next tech.  </p>
<p>Right now we have more Dial Tone DSL loops in our network so we can get the right line most of the time. Just think when the whole network goes to all looking like a dead - spare wire.  That Dialtone that used to protect your phone line from getting noisy and identified your line is no longer there&#8230;</p>
<p>Of course we haven&#8217;t thought it out that far yet.  Untill we do we will be serving it up the way you want it and save you a few bucks from time to time&#8230;.the aggravation of being with out for a while well it&#8217;s just like a noisy cell phone connection we just get used to it and expect to have to call them back a few extra times.   GRIN!  I have 4 cell phones, 2 wireless G3 laptops and a land line DSL with dialtone.  They told me it would save me money.. HA!  Dry Loop DSL not for this at&amp;t teck.  It&#8217;s too easy to say &#8221; Well there was nothing on it and I thought it was a spare line it tested spare&#8221;  </p>
<p>DSL is a great service Dry or with Dialtone.  I install them both daily.  </p>
<p>Mark Jones</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 14:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently purchased Dry-Loop DSL from Verizon on 8/10/08 and everything went good over the phone exept lack of communication on verizons part. Usual with the land-line verison you can call up the next day you receive your package in the mail and get your service turned on, but this time when I asked to have this done they said I would have to wait a week and a half for my service to get turned on. This irritated me because they werent telling my why, finally i got an attitude with the lady and she told me that a service technician had to come out and rewire the verizon box outside my house, we i thought was idiodic because they couldnt send one of there surplus amount of technician to my house the next day to rewire a box that would take ten minutes to do, and if i could get the box open with going to court i would have done it myself. The point is verizon needs to tell their customers what is going on. And I am curious to see how well the speed is especially with the new westell 7500 i received, if is slower then normal dsl im going to be p*ssed. Thanks for listening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently purchased Dry-Loop DSL from Verizon on 8/10/08 and everything went good over the phone exept lack of communication on verizons part. Usual with the land-line verison you can call up the next day you receive your package in the mail and get your service turned on, but this time when I asked to have this done they said I would have to wait a week and a half for my service to get turned on. This irritated me because they werent telling my why, finally i got an attitude with the lady and she told me that a service technician had to come out and rewire the verizon box outside my house, we i thought was idiodic because they couldnt send one of there surplus amount of technician to my house the next day to rewire a box that would take ten minutes to do, and if i could get the box open with going to court i would have done it myself. The point is verizon needs to tell their customers what is going on. And I am curious to see how well the speed is especially with the new westell 7500 i received, if is slower then normal dsl im going to be p*ssed. Thanks for listening.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Sanders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AT&#38;T Missouri will give you dry loop DSL, but only at 1.5/384 speeds.  When I had DSL on my land line, I had 6/512 service.  When I switched to Dry Loop, they would only give me 1.5/384.  They said if I bundled with a voice line, I could get faster, but if not, that is the fastest I could get.  There is no technical reason for this at all.  AT&#38;T just wants to screw with you and force you to purchase something you don't need or want.  They know most dry loopers are going to VOIP, and also know 1.5/384 is pretty weak for VOIP.  This is a total scam by AT&#38;T and they should be investigated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AT&amp;T Missouri will give you dry loop DSL, but only at 1.5/384 speeds.  When I had DSL on my land line, I had 6/512 service.  When I switched to Dry Loop, they would only give me 1.5/384.  They said if I bundled with a voice line, I could get faster, but if not, that is the fastest I could get.  There is no technical reason for this at all.  AT&amp;T just wants to screw with you and force you to purchase something you don&#8217;t need or want.  They know most dry loopers are going to VOIP, and also know 1.5/384 is pretty weak for VOIP.  This is a total scam by AT&amp;T and they should be investigated.</p>
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		<title>By: Pilgrim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had no trouble ordering dry loop without a regular phone line from Verizon in fall of 2007, so as far as "I have no phone service right now. Can I start on a dry loop?", maybe.  It took some fooling around to get a line that delivered any kind of speed, but luckily I had a great Verizon tech and he took care of it all.  Pretty much my only good experience with Verizon et al in the last 20 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had no trouble ordering dry loop without a regular phone line from Verizon in fall of 2007, so as far as &#8220;I have no phone service right now. Can I start on a dry loop?&#8221;, maybe.  It took some fooling around to get a line that delivered any kind of speed, but luckily I had a great Verizon tech and he took care of it all.  Pretty much my only good experience with Verizon et al in the last 20 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is my dry loop saga. I dropped my home phone service because I never used it. Thinking that since the phone and DSL were billed seperate they should be seperate. I was wrong. I received an Email sayiny they were sorry to hear I cancelled my high speed internet. I called the number listed and spoke to several people in India who were useless. I could not find out anything and since my phone was not in service and my DSL was I thought I was OK. When my internet went down I called back. Since I no longer had a home phone number I could not get to a real person until I started screaming into the phone. Evidently the automated system recognizes profanity and immediatly transfered my call to, you guessed it, India. I finally learned about dry loop service and signed up. The lady I finally talked to was great. She gave me a dummy number to use when I call in and got eveything hookeed up. I was out of service for only a few days and my service was up two days earlier than they said it would be. Their customer service SUCKS and I hope whoever made the decision to ship it to India gets hemmeroids, but if you call enough you can get someone who speaks english.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my dry loop saga. I dropped my home phone service because I never used it. Thinking that since the phone and DSL were billed seperate they should be seperate. I was wrong. I received an Email sayiny they were sorry to hear I cancelled my high speed internet. I called the number listed and spoke to several people in India who were useless. I could not find out anything and since my phone was not in service and my DSL was I thought I was OK. When my internet went down I called back. Since I no longer had a home phone number I could not get to a real person until I started screaming into the phone. Evidently the automated system recognizes profanity and immediatly transfered my call to, you guessed it, India. I finally learned about dry loop service and signed up. The lady I finally talked to was great. She gave me a dummy number to use when I call in and got eveything hookeed up. I was out of service for only a few days and my service was up two days earlier than they said it would be. Their customer service SUCKS and I hope whoever made the decision to ship it to India gets hemmeroids, but if you call enough you can get someone who speaks english.</p>
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		<title>By: Dallas Tx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dallas Tx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 18:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am looking into switching from my current AT&#38;T express DSL to dry loop.  I called the number on my bill for internet services and spoke to an AT&#38;T rep.  I was told that dry loop *is* offered in my area, and that it would be $5 more than my existing charge of $25 for 1.5MB/384KB service.  I haven't pulled the trigger on anything yet, but other than the extra five buck, it all seems easy enough to do.  The rep even gave me info on how to port my existing land line phone number to my intended VoIP provider. Other than a possible lack of billing options am I missing something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking into switching from my current AT&amp;T express DSL to dry loop.  I called the number on my bill for internet services and spoke to an AT&amp;T rep.  I was told that dry loop *is* offered in my area, and that it would be $5 more than my existing charge of $25 for 1.5MB/384KB service.  I haven&#8217;t pulled the trigger on anything yet, but other than the extra five buck, it all seems easy enough to do.  The rep even gave me info on how to port my existing land line phone number to my intended VoIP provider. Other than a possible lack of billing options am I missing something?</p>
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		<title>By: Cutter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought I would mention that I checked (through the link posted in your rant) if Verizon had Dry Loop available for my apartment.  My apartment was listed but they were sorry that the service was not yet available in my area.  I actually have Dry Loop DSL service.  Are they trying to discourage new accounts?  Ummmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought I would mention that I checked (through the link posted in your rant) if Verizon had Dry Loop available for my apartment.  My apartment was listed but they were sorry that the service was not yet available in my area.  I actually have Dry Loop DSL service.  Are they trying to discourage new accounts?  Ummmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: http://www.punny.org/money/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-dry-loop-dsl/</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerks at AT&#38;T (like Verizon) will not let you pay for dry loop online.  You can CALL and pay.  You can send a check, but can't pay online.  You can pay for ATT PHONE online.  You can pay for ATT Yahoo INTERNET online.  You can pay for ATT Cell online.  Just not dry loop dsl.  Think ATT / Verizon are trying to prove a point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerks at AT&amp;T (like Verizon) will not let you pay for dry loop online.  You can CALL and pay.  You can send a check, but can&#8217;t pay online.  You can pay for ATT PHONE online.  You can pay for ATT Yahoo INTERNET online.  You can pay for ATT Cell online.  Just not dry loop dsl.  Think ATT / Verizon are trying to prove a point?</p>
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