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	<title>Comments on: Carnival Round-Up (With Bonus Complaining!): Week of July 17, 2006</title>
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		<title>By: Microsoft outlook 2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>Microsoft outlook 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: replica jewelry</title>
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		<dc:creator>replica jewelry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jocu-RI cu Masini</title>
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		<dc:creator>jocu-RI cu Masini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article as usual, I know that this is a problem for everybody but I still can&#039;t stop laughing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article as usual, I know that this is a problem for everybody but I still can&#8217;t stop laughing</p>
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		<title>By: jocu-RI cu Masini</title>
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		<dc:creator>jocu-RI cu Masini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 10:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I had a sense of humor like your,great stuff dude!</description>
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		<title>By: jocu-RI cu Masini</title>
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		<dc:creator>jocu-RI cu Masini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 10:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing man, how do you come up with this stories</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing man, how do you come up with this stories</p>
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		<title>By: jocu-RI cu Masini</title>
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		<dc:creator>jocu-RI cu Masini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t stop laughing at your great jokes man and your drawings are awesome too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t stop laughing at your great jokes man and your drawings are awesome too</p>
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		<title>By: jocu-RI cu Masini</title>
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		<dc:creator>jocu-RI cu Masini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 13:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like to read your posts because of those great pictures you draw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to read your posts because of those great pictures you draw</p>
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		<title>By: jocu-RI cu Masini</title>
		<link>http://www.punny.org/money/carnival-round-up-with-bonus-complaining-week-of-july-17-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-303100</link>
		<dc:creator>jocu-RI cu Masini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 17:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are the funniest man alive dude, I realy like you</description>
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		<title>By: Alaskan Mukluks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alaskan Mukluks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite the age of these articles I still find them to be relevant and highly entertaining</description>
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		<title>By: mbhunter</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 04:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice discussion.

The carnivals I&#039;ve hosted mostly fall in the OK category, probably.  Nothing great, but nothing excessively lazy either.

Hosting a carnival does get you some extra traffic regardless of quality.  Having said that, the amount of residual traffic you get after the week is over will depend a lot on the quality.  The fantastic ones will be linked to long after they&#039;re posted initially (like in the present post).  The really bad ones will be remembered too (maybe you can recall a really poorly done Carnival of Personal Finance).  And the average ones are just there.

One pressure in putting up a fantastic carnival is that you&#039;re getting many of your posts the night or two before, so the design of the carnival has to be such that you can put it together quickly.

Anyway ... here&#039;s a question whose answer is implied in the original post:

Does a plain carnival generate less traffic for the submitters than a great one?

I don&#039;t think the answer is clear.  (Has anyone measured this in some way?)  A successful carnival is more than just a polished look, clever design, gimmick, superhuman effort, etc.  At the end of the day, the successful ones will be the ones that drive the most traffic to the posts in the carnival.  I think the plain vanilla carnivals might actually be better than ones with a lot of commentary by the host.  If the host gives away the punch line for a post, there&#039;s no reason for visitors to read the post for themselves!

It&#039;s for this reason that I&#039;m not against lists of links.  (Though I probably could categorize the links in my future carnivals.)  Short &quot;so-and-so posts lah-dee-dah at bloggy-blog&quot; or embellishments on this theme reveal none of the content of the post to the reader -- which encourages them to read the article if it interests them.  Mission accomplished, as far as I&#039;m concerned.  If I entertain or wow people, great.  But if I do it at the expense of the posters, then I&#039;ve done them a disservice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice discussion.</p>
<p>The carnivals I&#8217;ve hosted mostly fall in the OK category, probably.  Nothing great, but nothing excessively lazy either.</p>
<p>Hosting a carnival does get you some extra traffic regardless of quality.  Having said that, the amount of residual traffic you get after the week is over will depend a lot on the quality.  The fantastic ones will be linked to long after they&#8217;re posted initially (like in the present post).  The really bad ones will be remembered too (maybe you can recall a really poorly done Carnival of Personal Finance).  And the average ones are just there.</p>
<p>One pressure in putting up a fantastic carnival is that you&#8217;re getting many of your posts the night or two before, so the design of the carnival has to be such that you can put it together quickly.</p>
<p>Anyway &#8230; here&#8217;s a question whose answer is implied in the original post:</p>
<p>Does a plain carnival generate less traffic for the submitters than a great one?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the answer is clear.  (Has anyone measured this in some way?)  A successful carnival is more than just a polished look, clever design, gimmick, superhuman effort, etc.  At the end of the day, the successful ones will be the ones that drive the most traffic to the posts in the carnival.  I think the plain vanilla carnivals might actually be better than ones with a lot of commentary by the host.  If the host gives away the punch line for a post, there&#8217;s no reason for visitors to read the post for themselves!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s for this reason that I&#8217;m not against lists of links.  (Though I probably could categorize the links in my future carnivals.)  Short &#8220;so-and-so posts lah-dee-dah at bloggy-blog&#8221; or embellishments on this theme reveal none of the content of the post to the reader &#8212; which encourages them to read the article if it interests them.  Mission accomplished, as far as I&#8217;m concerned.  If I entertain or wow people, great.  But if I do it at the expense of the posters, then I&#8217;ve done them a disservice.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 23:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick (and others)

At the risk of overpromising, I encourage you to submit to this week&#039;s Carnival of Investing. Hopefully I&#039;ll make it worth your while.</description>
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<p>At the risk of overpromising, I encourage you to submit to this week&#8217;s Carnival of Investing. Hopefully I&#8217;ll make it worth your while.</p>
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		<title>By: Him</title>
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		<dc:creator>Him</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 20:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haikus. Lot&#039;s of &#039;em. As per my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.makelovenotdebt.com/2006/05/carnival_of_debt_reduction_xxx_1.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Carnival of Debt Reduction&lt;/a&gt; a few weeks back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haikus. Lot&#8217;s of &#8216;em. As per my <a href="http://www.makelovenotdebt.com/2006/05/carnival_of_debt_reduction_xxx_1.php" >Carnival of Debt Reduction</a> a few weeks back.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; What&#8217;s Hot This Week&#160;on&#160;Blueprint for Financial Prosperity</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; What&#8217;s Hot This Week&#160;on&#160;Blueprint for Financial Prosperity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 19:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lastly but not leasty, Nick at Punny Money has a little rant about Carnivals (he&#8217;s a few weeks too late on this rant) where he actually credits me with putting together a decent carnival. ha! Tricked another one. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lastly but not leasty, Nick at Punny Money has a little rant about Carnivals (he&#8217;s a few weeks too late on this rant) where he actually credits me with putting together a decent carnival. ha! Tricked another one. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ricemutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>ricemutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you and everyone here, for the most part. I&#039;ve only hosted one carnival (C of Investing two weeks ago), and I&#039;m due to host F of Frugality in November, so I&#039;ll keep these thoughts in mind.

Honestly, as a complete newbie to hosting carnivals, I wasn&#039;t sure what leeway I had to work with. I didn&#039;t include one submission that was completely unrelated to investing, but I didn&#039;t much care for a couple of them that didn&#039;t present (in my opinion) any interesting content at all.

It would help if we had some clearer guidelines for hosts, like &quot;be choosy in accepting every submission&quot; or &quot;feel free to leave out poorly-written articles&quot;. For people who are new to blogging/carnivals, it can be intimidating to decide not to include X because it was poorly written, or Y because it was included in three other finance carnivals this same week, especially if X and Y are older, more established blogs than yours. (Of course, the solving the latter problem requires some coordination of efforts across carnival hosts, too.)

I did read every submission and tagged each one with relevant keywords and a brief explanation of what the article was about, instead of just cutting and pasting. I also listed them in their categories in order of my opinion of the usefulness of their content, though I didn&#039;t say that explicitly.

Just my thoughts. I don&#039;t claim to be able to compare to the amazing work you and others have done in the past but just wanted to give a newcomer&#039;s perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you and everyone here, for the most part. I&#8217;ve only hosted one carnival (C of Investing two weeks ago), and I&#8217;m due to host F of Frugality in November, so I&#8217;ll keep these thoughts in mind.</p>
<p>Honestly, as a complete newbie to hosting carnivals, I wasn&#8217;t sure what leeway I had to work with. I didn&#8217;t include one submission that was completely unrelated to investing, but I didn&#8217;t much care for a couple of them that didn&#8217;t present (in my opinion) any interesting content at all.</p>
<p>It would help if we had some clearer guidelines for hosts, like &#8220;be choosy in accepting every submission&#8221; or &#8220;feel free to leave out poorly-written articles&#8221;. For people who are new to blogging/carnivals, it can be intimidating to decide not to include X because it was poorly written, or Y because it was included in three other finance carnivals this same week, especially if X and Y are older, more established blogs than yours. (Of course, the solving the latter problem requires some coordination of efforts across carnival hosts, too.)</p>
<p>I did read every submission and tagged each one with relevant keywords and a brief explanation of what the article was about, instead of just cutting and pasting. I also listed them in their categories in order of my opinion of the usefulness of their content, though I didn&#8217;t say that explicitly.</p>
<p>Just my thoughts. I don&#8217;t claim to be able to compare to the amazing work you and others have done in the past but just wanted to give a newcomer&#8217;s perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I blogged about this before too, but I&#039;ve since come to accept it.  It is what it is - a list of links.   I skim it, read only what catches my eye, and move on.

I&#039;m currently not on any list to host any Carnival myself, simply because I&#039;m not willing to spend an entire Sunday evening to put a good one together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blogged about this before too, but I&#8217;ve since come to accept it.  It is what it is &#8211; a list of links.   I skim it, read only what catches my eye, and move on.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently not on any list to host any Carnival myself, simply because I&#8217;m not willing to spend an entire Sunday evening to put a good one together.</p>
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